Wars are inevitable, on into the future. We simply have to accept the fact that we are territorial animals hustling for food, the most precious, limited commodity on planet earth.
God is an archaic beast of the human imagination that cannot save us.
Sam Harris says that Islam is the “mother lode of bad ideas”.
I say that God religions are the ‘mother lodes of bad ideas’ .
The whole of human civilization needs a reformation, not simply Islam, as Ayaan Hersi Ali declares. Step number one is, we need to remove religion out of the headlines of life because, reality is chewing away at our bodies and minds, while the myths, ignoring this fact, cannot arrest this action.
We should not be angry with the capitalist.. They are the “smart” ones!
We simply have to accept that, the “weak” will not survive. Hunger overrides morality. The predator hungry, smart man, will survive.
No matter how far we think we are above the animal kingdom, the facts of life are killing us and our myths are keeping us dumbed down. Capitalists are not myth believers and that is why they are smarter and why they will be the survivors. To say they believe in god is simply one of their smart patronising tricks to keep the myth believers weak and at bay
Islam is simply the violent, contemporary knife’s sharp edge of the human psyche, the capitalist treasonous ethos, that is practiced consistently, throughout the commercial landscape. This is a fact of life, not a myth, and has been practiced since the origin of consciousness and the capitalists ideology… an ideology that is also intrinsic to each and every human being and is a contradiction to the ideology of mythicism, which relies on a daily practised theological ritual of utopianism.
Religion is a fabricated myth from which we need to smarten-up and “snap-out-of ” There is a “mother lode” of human immorality in this while there is instinctive morality in the human genetic/DNA bank which we violate with our myths… which, by the way, capitalists and other animals do not violate.
Capitalists are not destroying the world. They are constructing beautiful safe havens, with walls and armies and they are using the myth believers, who are destroying the world, as the sustenance upon which capitalism relies and survives.
Children believe in fairy tales, but these become the educational training ground for adult myth believers, the food of the capitalists, eating you up and spitting out your bones.
We have to start using our brains to knock the myth credo from it‘s hallowed, societal pedestals . There is no heaven in the sky and the only factual paradise possible is here on planet earth.
The strong (capitalist) will survive and the weak (myth believers) will perish… was, is and always(?) will be. The reality is, the meek will not inherit the earth. There is no “meek” in the psychology of the human mind. That too is a myth. Factually, there is weak, but not meek!
Saturday, March 28, 2015
Wednesday, March 25, 2015
BEHIND GOD'S MASK
He’s a bad ass dude
And often rude
He comes with slew of Aliases
More than the tablets have commandments
God Allah Jehovah Buddha YHWH Elohim Rama Krishna Para Braham Ishtvara Vishnu Shiva Ganesha Jagannath Vithoba Venkateshwars Kalki Kali Yuga Aga Han Indra Kartikeva Aten Shalem Jah Rama Narayana Vallabha Ganesha Surya Durga Swaminarayan
Thou shalt not lie
He’s a bad ass dude
Who sends fires of Hell upon the land
And all the habitants there in
Without remorse or discourse
Since he is God of course.
The bad ass dude.
Saturday, March 21, 2015
REAL MEN DON'T EAT KISCH
REAL MEN DON'T EAT KISCH
Is that so... well, that was what I heard years ago. It was my antidote when it was offered to me. There was something about the taste that I did not like. Well, low and behold, here in South Florida, as Celebrity friend's chef, I was requested to make it. Not only did I not eat it, except on social decorum day's party time when I would hold my nose, I never made it.
Well, low and behold again, I've been making it and enjoying it and even getting better at crafts of it. Here is my latest effort this morning and I gussied it up a bit almost like a real chef. My friend munched it down like she was revenous. That little pill there beside my plate is my 1/3 Omega 3 fish oil hit of the day.
You cannot say that does not look delicious... yummeeeeee !
When I was living in that artist community throughout the 80's I had to do my share of cooking and learned how to do just about anything... even the best damn apple pies in the country... had to fight fer yer chunk. I promise if anyone gets me a venue in their town, I'll make ya the best damn turkey dinner apple pie meal ya ever did have. Of course, it will be toxic... swimming in my mother's fat laced gravy... oooooh... sooooo good. I even converted a vegetarian to, dig in!!! It is a regular ritual with us now, along side our other ritual... burnt steak night. Almost caught his house on fire in one of those events. Burnt the socks right off my feet stompin the flames out. But we saved the house. We know the steak is done when the smoke drifts down from the ceiling about four feet. Of course, my friend (a vegetarian doctor) disconnects all the smoke detectors in his house, so the fire truck, police and ambulance don't come barrelling up the street with their sirens blasting away . Of course, we only do this about three or four time a year, so we avoid carcinogenetic artery poisoning. And we have the best time of or lives... wine and music thrown in.
So find me a venue and I'll make ya the best damn toxic meal in town. That's a promise.
This is me in that anti-phobic T-shirt
Ya see, I do have fun amongst all my serious art and commentary adventures.
But I cannot help myself... that Scorpio nature... you know. Let me just get back a bit to the serious stuff... just momentarily, as there is a bit of hysteria going on around the world by a few busy and very naughty humanisters. We gotta put them back into their cage on the wheel.... not quite sure how they got out.
Halloween Streets
I thought Halloween only happens in October. Out here on the street of social media I am seeing gangs of scarfed men wearing masks of prophets... politicians and business men mostly prophesising WWIII, catastrophic financial collapse, terrorists over running our lands.
Someone posted a Facebook clip about "Money Morning" predicting a financial collapse that will bring 25 years of depression. and the number of people who checked the "like" box was mind blowing. The fear mongers have pressed the button and hysteria is taking over. They are creating cults of fear... Harper, Putin, that North Korea idiot, ISIS and other apocalyptic fraudsters and they are all out for your buck, but cleverly offering Jim Rickards "Free (make a million) Book" on how to survive the crash. They are not offering free books, the bastards.. they are giving you their financial profile.., as to which of their stocks to buy. Smarten up before your pockets are empty and dry and these crooks are sipping martinis on their yachts in the Caribbean. I have been following that "Money Morning" charade of fake media interviews with Jim Rickards for the last 7 or 8 months and even signed up for their "free" books only to find a labyrinth of other obligations before the books are sent. They are simply crooks. The scheme to provide you with a safe haven when and if the crash comes (six months they said back then, two years I heard more recently... from those same cheating lips) their books will not save you and their stocks will crash anyway.
Check them out if you do not believe me. If they are offering it free or for $40 bucks... you know it is a goddamn scam. You should easily be able to see through the arrogant impractically of their "save you" scams. I am screaming at those devils throughout my blog: www.shakethedevilofftour.blogspot.com. I am asking for nothing and selling nothing but, I am screaming at them and the hysteria they are creating to get you to suck on their corporate tit of lies and fear.
Go ahead... I will not be there with you.
Media headlines show Russian’s Putin having said “we were ready for nuclear war“ a sentiment echoed by North Korean dictator, Kim Jong-Un. Do those ignorant combatants know there will be no nuclear war. One bomb and they are dead. North Korea and the Crimea .. Gone… without a war. Yet millions perhaps billion of people gone in a flash with more to follow from the fall-out. I wonder how many safe cities are functioning under the asphalt, for those bastards. Those apocalyptic scenarios are the aftermath models being bandied about. I find it hard to believe we are that crazy.
Money Morning WE MAKE INVESTING PROFITABLE
CIA Insider: "Forget Iran, Iraq, Ukraine, and Syria this is where WWIII will start" Right here in America, they mean but, notice the small print… “we make investments profitable” … does not seem that WW3 is much of a concern for them. Their props are a news media stage, that is definitely staged with rehearsed lines, by both the interviewer and the interviewee… a forgery set up used by many such financial schemers… real enough to fool most audiences.
I think I will go fishing and just fall of the rock into the water.
Yet, for some reason I have hope and faith is the sensibility of the human race, that we will smarten up, keep our money in our pockets and calm the hysteria by the constituency of the button pushers.
Well, come along with me and let‘s burn a steak
Selamat Tinggal.
Friday, March 20, 2015
An Artless Fraud
The $2,000,000.00 donation.
I have to confess, when I saw that email in my in-box, I hesitated opening it, thinking, WOW, that “GoFundMe” campaign really does work. But, I was struck with a feeling of quilt, thinking how could I accept it, when children are starving… a sentiment expressed by one of my internet friends. It was not until the next day that I actually opened it. Throughout the night, thoughts and rationalizing kept me awake as I tried to justify accepting the money. “art is worth nothing” kept whirling around in my head, embedded, hammered their since childhood... the immorality of it all. It felt silly to me, so I put that word out on the internet to see what people thought. The answer that came back was “Yes, it is silly” A big dilemma, forcing me to assess the value of art in society… my art in society and must one expect or accept donations. Finally, I decided yes, it is okay as art is not only valuable, but is one of many essential social tools of education, without which poverty will never be eradicated.
When I opened the email next morning and saw a $2,000,000 donation from “a Christian, on the instruction of God to give you (me) the donation”, I was totally silenced. He was real, having won the mega lottery in Idaho. Shit, I thought, I could not accept that unless I told him I am not a Christian, otherwise I could never live my life without the guilt and for an immoral artist that would be a double sin.
After I replied with that confession, the emails offering the donation started rolling in. But my antennae were up… there were signs of fraud in the language. First of all, the letter was not addressed to me, it was: “Dear Friend”.
MacD and I talked about it and were convinced, it was fraud. I then started my game play with them. You can see that game in the following email exchanges, I do hope you enjoy it, I had a lot of fun with it. And maybe it will be beneficial to some people who receive these scam letters.
1.
From: Kristen Eckstrand
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:18 PM
To: Kristen Eckstrand
Subject: RE: Donation.
Mr Mccullar has picked you for a donation, contact him via Jim_Mccullar
2.
From: rod_
To: Jim_
Subject: Re: Donation..
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 01:37:24 -0300
Hello Mr. Mccullar,
I am responding to this email. It would be great to chat with you.
I have a phone but, have it disconnected while travelling in the USA.
Roaming, charges are extremely expensive. However, I can call out
from my computer Google phone.
Thanks you
Rod Malay
3.
From: Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 6:57 PM
To: Rod
Subject: RE: DONATION TO YOU.
Dear Friend,
I am Mr Jim McCullar I am a native of Idaho, United State Of America, Carolyn my wife and I have decided to make sure this is put on the internet for the world to see as you could see from the web page sent to you in our first mail, I may not know you, but I believe if you receive my first email and respond back meaning you were chosen by God to receive my donation of [$2,000,000.00 USD] you must be a God fearing individual, I am a Christian and I believe that Good things happens to good people like you who had the mind to respond back to my mail.
I am Mr Jim McCullar the mega winner of $190 Million Dollars Jackpot in Washington. WATCH US NOW:http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/jim-carolyn-mccullar-mega-millions-winners-12559371
You see after taken care of the needs of our immediate family members, we decided to donate the remaining of the fund to other individuals around the world in need, the local fire department, the Red Cross, Haiti, hospitals and some other organizations in Asia and Europe that fight cancer, I would love to introduce my self more and also show you picture of me and my family but firstly I want to hear from you if my gift of [$2,000,000.00 USD] is accepted by you before I proceed. Send me the below details to show that you accept my gift.
NAMES ROD Malay:.....
I am have been travelling in the United States of America and have my Canadian phone on sleep mode until I return to Canada
COUNTRY CANADA :.......
Thank you for accepting our offer, we are indeed grateful We anticipate your earliest response.
Best Regard
Jim McCullar
4.
From: rod
To: jim_mccullartrustfunds
Subject: Re: DONATION TO YOU.
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 22:07:52 -0300
Hello Jim,
Thank you for your very generous offer. I look forward to meeting you and you dear wife, Carolyn. Do you believe that God instructed you to donate this money to me? He does indeed work in “Strange ways”. But, I must tell you, I am not a Christian. If you withdraw your offer, I will understand.
What must I do next?
Cheers
Rod
5.
From: jim
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:14 PM
To: Rod
Subject: RE: Thanks for your response.
Dear Beloved Rod malay,
Thanks for your response, first, I have to thank you for your commitment to accept my gift and I assure you it’s a life time opportunity and 100% legitimate, the Two Million Dollars is going to pass through international laws and it's 100% risk free. I have a lawyer taking care of the documentation required to perfect the Two Million Dollars for you, and you don't have anything to worry about that because I am the one responsible for it.
I moved out of Washington United State Of America in April due to high risk of gunmen asking us for money and we were advised to leave the country for a while which we did Mitchell my grandson was kidnapped and I was asked to pay for him to be released which i did, we had to relocate to United Kingdom for a while and I am planning to come back to Idaho very soon. I must let you know that I am not getting any younger what i expect from you right now is trust and commitment because if you don't trust me you will find it difficult to accept my gift that is why you need to trust and believe me about this donation you are free to call me at anytime of the day
To facilitate the disbursement process of the TWO MILLION DOLLARS which have been donated solely to you, you are to re-confirm to me once again with your promise to carry-out the good work to every less privilege around in your community, such as the charities, churches, widows and widower. I do not want to ask you for your ID as we do not want to leave an impression in your mind that we want to steal your identity). I do hope that you will be able to use the money wisely and judiciously over there in your country. We will employ you to do what you can to alleviate the level of poverty in your region and also try to enhance the standard of living of as many people as you can because that is the only objective of donating this money to you in the first place.
Note that i’ll be responsible for all the document fees about the TWO MILLION DOLLARS which my lawyer need to carry out and you are the one who will be responsible about the Bank charges fee which is the HSBC bank in the United Kingdom.
I will be awaiting your urgent response with regarding your final decision about this donation to you, before i can be able to furnish you with the HSBC BANK contact information which is the payout bank.
Best Regard,
Jim McCullar
6.
From: rod_
To: Jim mccullartrustfunds
Subject: Re: Thanks for your response.
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:43:45 -0300
Dear Jim,
We will, along the way, at you convenience and pleasure, have a chance to meet and have, at least, dinner together and in London there are fine live theatres. Your generous offer overwhelms me.
Thank you.
What must I do next?
Rod
7.
From: Jim
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 3:02 PM
To: Rod
Subject: RE: CONTACT THE PAYOUT BANK.
Dear Beloved Rod malay,
This is to acknowledge the receipt of your last email and to confirm your reliability in this donation scheme. I am happy to inform you that I have forwarded your details over to the management of the payout bank, The HSBC Bank Plc UK. I know that they are alot of scam on the internet and everyone need to be very careful, so for me to prove myself this is my telephone number you can reach me at anytime of the day +(44)703-1983-983.
Now taking into cognizance the nature of the funds, United Kingdom Financial Security Act requires International beneficiaries like you is to pay for HSBC Bank Plc charges over here in the U.K., before they will transfer the [$2,000,000.00 USD], to your designated bank account anywhere in the world. I have therefore included a Donation Code Number to this message [JIM/231/2011BDB] which should be kept strictly confidential as you will use it in receiving your donation. You are to contact the management of The HSBC Bank Plc UK via email immediately as they have been authorized to transfer the fund to you by my lawyer and concluded all modalities associated with the wire transfer process.
HSBC BANK CONTACT INFORMATION
Bank Name: HSBC Bank Plc UK
Contact Person (Foreign Exchange Supervisor) : Mr Antonio Simoes
Bank Tel Number:
Bank Email Address: (hsbcfundremittancedept co.uk)
Mr.Antonio Simoes Email: (assimoes)
Bank Website: www.hsbc.co.uk/
Contact Mr.Antonio Simoes via this email (assimoes)
you are to provide him with your Donation Code Number [JIM/231/2011BDB] so that he can verify your identity with the details I sent over to their office earlier on today. Please endeavor to keep me fully informed on all developments with the payout bank so that I can also monitor the transfer process through a feedback from you. Your follow up and full cooperation is highly anticipated.
Best Regards,
Jim McCullar
8.
From: rod_malay@hotmail.com
To: assimoes; Jim_mccullartrustfunds
Subject: Re: CONTACT THE PAYOUT BANK 2
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:51:02 -0300
Dear Mr. Antonio Simoes
I am following the attached instructions. Please inform as to what next step I must perform.
Thank you
Rod Malay.
9.
From: Jim
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:16 AM
To: Rod
Subject: RE: EMAIL
Beloved Rod malay,
I got your mail and noticed how committed you are, what you ought to do is contact the HSBC bank and then get back to me with every necessary information you got from the Bank,
JIM.
10.
From: Rod
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:26 AM
To: Jim McCullar
Subject: RE: EMAIL
Thanks Jim, I have already done this and am waiting for a reply from the bank.
Cheers
Rod
11.
From: Antonio Simoes
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:08 PM
To: Rod
Subject: Re: CONTACT THE PAYOUT BANK 2
Registered No: 1026167Q
Registered Office:
Canada Square LONDON, ENG E14 5HQ United Kingdom
We have confirm the instructions from the Mr Jim McCullar, instructing us to immediately open an online temporal debit account in your name; and transfer your approved grant funds of $2,000,000USD = £1,289,158.18 GBP from their personal foundation account to you via permission within the next Three (3) working days from the Cheque that was submitted to us, Our on-line temporal account opening will enable us to immediately make any further transfer of your payment funds to your designated personal bank account in your country.
As a Non-Resident of the UNITED KINGDOM, you are required to set up a Non-Resident Online/Offshore account with our Bank. This online/offshore account will be set up in your name by our Bank HSBC Holdings Plc.) As soon as you meet up to our corporate policy, you will have your account setup.
New Customer applying for Online Account & Transfer Fill and Return the below Manual Account Opening Form.
Manual Account Opening Form
Reference: International Application ID no:
Do you want an account with HSBC BANK:
First Name:
Last Name:
Date of Birth:
City/State:
Country:
Occupation:
Nationality:
Sex:
E-mail:
Tel:
Office Tel:
Account type:
Initial Deposit of Account:
Date of payment:
NEW CUSTOMER COMPLETE REG: ****************************************************************************
IMPORTANT NOTICE: Read the below carefully before attempting to fill out the Account you would want us to open for you
*****************************************************************************
All account types requires an initial deposit by customers before account can be setup, Note this deposit is the cash needed to setup your account and will be deposited into your newly setup account after it has been opened by the HSBC HOLDINGS PLC.
Please kindly read the below account and select your affordable account choice with initial deposit.
1. PERSONAL ACCOUNT: This type of account requires a minimum initial deposit of £448.00 GBP equivalent to $670.00 USD (Six Hundred And Seventy USD), this amount is required to set-up your new account to a fully operational account. The maximum transfer possible within a month with this Account is £7,000,000.00 (Seven million pounds) within one month or the equivalent amount in another currency; and with this account you can apply for a gold membership credit card after a good business relationship of one year minimum.
2. CORPORATE ACCOUNT: This is a daily business account and the initial opening deposit is £501.00 GBP equivalent to $750.00 USD (Seven Hundred and Fifty USD) this amount is required to set-up your new account to a fully operational account. The maximum transfer possible within a month with this Account is £15,000,000.00 (Fifteen million pounds) or the equivalent amount in another currency; and with this account you can apply for a gold membership credit card after a good business relationship of five months minimum.
3. PLATINUM ACCOUNT: This is a daily personal and business account and the initial opening deposit is £568.739 GBP equivalent to $850.00 USD (Eight Hundred And Fifty USD) this amount is required is to set-up your new account to a fully operational account. The maximum transfer possible within a month is unlimited; and with this account you can apply for a gold membership credit card after a good business relationship of three months minimum.
On receipt of the information, you shall be educated on the process mastered to facilitate this transaction in the earliest. For more info please call
FOREIGN EXCHANGE SUPERVISOR
MR. ANTONIO SIMOES
Hsbc Bank Plc
Registered in England.
Registered No: 1026167Q
Registered Office:Canada Square LONDON, ENG E14 5HQ United Kingdom.
************************************************************WARNING*************************************************************************
This message was sent from the Accounts Department of Hsbc Bank Plc. It is only designated for intended recipient only.If you have received this email in error you should immediately discard it without transferring or storing any of it's content.
Anyone caught not abiding with these rules will be made to face the law as all communications are officially meant for Hsbc Bank Plc customers only.
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12.
From: rod_
To: jim_
Subject: Re: EMAIL
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:47:27 -0300
Dear Lovely, kind and generous Jim,
I am afraid that God is not being very honest and upfront with you or me. Do you know what those banks are demanding of me before they will release your great, heart felt donation to me. They are basically asking me to open an off-shore account, which is probably illegal in Canada in any case, and then send them a fee of nearly $1000 in Canadian dollars. How about simply sending me a cashiers check and I will deposit it in my account. That would be much more simple and then I will know that I am not breaking any Canadian laws, which is a big issue these days, as you know people are doing all kinds of criminal or a least immoral dealings to avoid taxes. I support my country’s tax system as it is doing exactly what you are asking of me with the donation... to help people in my country for a better life. That is what our tax dollars do... creating social programs to make life better for all people. I support my government in this ideology. It seems contradictory to your personal mission in life to have banks, basically, steal money from the people. I imagine you are as surprised as am I, as to what these criminals, defrauders are doing with the good money of good people like you. Will you please call the bank and tell them to drop that requirement and make out a cashiers check instead.
Dear Jim, I am so sorry and so embarrassed about this complication. I makes absolutely sick and frankly... pissed of as I am sure you are. Even if I had the money to pay these bank fees, I would not do it... would not break our country’s laws. I have my principles. Let me tell you my story.
I have been travelling around the USA in my old van on an art tour and I blew an engine. I am stuck now at this old service station in New Orleans and busking on Bourbon Street, with the prostitutes and Fortune Tellers to make a few bucks to get my engine fixed. The Fortune Tellers told me not to worry, that I am going to come into a lot of money. I never believe any of these stories. But, to make matters even worse, when I thought it was not possible, things got worse. What could be worse than not being able to get back to my old Nova Scotia home while living on cans of beans and sleeping in my old van outside this old smelly service. The people are very nice, as they are all good Christians. They give me lunches sometimes and invite me to their Church and wow… can these Black people sing the gospel and pray to the lord. They joke that that they are going to make a Christian out of me yet.
I am paying the garage owner the few bucks I make from busking each day, as he works at putting in a used engine in my old van. But, to make matters even worse, I got word from my brother back home that our dear 87 year old mother had a car accident. I am absolutely sick. She is still alive, with a broken pelvis (and that is not good for an old person). The steering wheel punched into her chest and broke her sternum. She can hardly breath. She would have been dead, as her car plunged into a lake, except the driver behind her saw what happened and he dove into the icy water and pulled her out of the car.
My mom is a tough woman and a devote Christian, She taught us good values as we were growing up. She is always out around the community doing the work of Jesus for every one. They will miss her terribly. The doctors say she is in very bad shape and only God can pull her through. And I cannot get home to be by her side.
Just when I thought, I cannot get through this and death would be a blessing, you wonderful Jim McCullar, of Idaho, came into my life with a donation of $2,000,000.00. You said God had chosen me to receive your “Christian” gift. That Fortune Teller lady was very wise. Do you think Jim, that the lady is some how connected to God? Wow Jim I cannot believe it. The Fortune Teller, these wonderful Christian folks here in New Orleans and now you… my “Spirit” was flying high in the heavens, Jim . I felt totally drawn back to my Christian roots. Finally, I thought, I will be able to get back home to Nova Scotia and pay for my moms very expensive medical bills, that will save her life. And now I feel so, so embarrassed… and deathly sick that I have to disappoint you…I’m so sorry to do this to you. Please forgive me. I am in total misery again.
To repeat what I said above...I got the letter, copied below, from the HSBC Bank in the United Kingdom telling me they are ready to transfer the money to my Canadian bank account but, I will have to pay the very big sum of “bank fees” $1,000 ,which is impossible. I cannot pay this. I can hardly afford a can of beans for supper. I guess now your legal assistants will have to withdraw the $2,000,000.00 offer to me. I am sure God will find you another needy recipient. Thanks anyway Jim… you are a good man. God bless you.
With Thanks
Yours sincerely
Rod Malay
13.
From: Jim McCullar
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 4:59 AM
To: Rod
Subject: RE: EMAIL
Beloved Rod malay,
What you ought to know is there are other beneficiary which will also claim this gift from the HSBC bank, so i would advice you to look for funds and set up this account, once this is done your funds would be transferred to any domestic account of your choice, raise up any amount and then get back to me.
14.
From: Rod
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 1:37 PM
To: Jim McCullar
Subject: Re: EMAIL
Dear Mr. Crockster (AKA Jim McCullar),
I wish to thank you for your delightful and charming cooperation with assisting me in the creation of this story for my new media journal: THE SECULAR CELL. It truly was an inspiring journey in the genre of fabrication. It will go out on Facebook in a couple of hours, for the whole world to see, as a brief cautionary, instructional paper on internet fraud. This is my social duty. And who knows, I might even make a few real bucks. You see, as an artist, my part of this story “scheme” is virtually 100% true, where as your side is a total and corrupt lie.
You should be ashamed of yourself for appropriating the good name of an honest man for your evil endeavours. I will of course send a copy of this story along to the real Jim McCullar. I am sure he will get quite a chuckle out of it. You have by now figured out that I was onto your little fairy-tale from the beginning. However, call it masochism, I always enjoy stringing people like you along as far as possible... to waste your valuable time while having a bit of fun along the way, as I practice my writing skills.
Thanks again and by the way... I have sent all of my correspondence with you off to Interpol and HSBC
Have a nice day... hopefully the weather is cold and miserable and the bullets are wising by your head as you are reading this and I wish you all the best bad luck possible in your chosen profession.
Cheers
Rod Malay
rod_malay@hotmail.com
I have to confess, when I saw that email in my in-box, I hesitated opening it, thinking, WOW, that “GoFundMe” campaign really does work. But, I was struck with a feeling of quilt, thinking how could I accept it, when children are starving… a sentiment expressed by one of my internet friends. It was not until the next day that I actually opened it. Throughout the night, thoughts and rationalizing kept me awake as I tried to justify accepting the money. “art is worth nothing” kept whirling around in my head, embedded, hammered their since childhood... the immorality of it all. It felt silly to me, so I put that word out on the internet to see what people thought. The answer that came back was “Yes, it is silly” A big dilemma, forcing me to assess the value of art in society… my art in society and must one expect or accept donations. Finally, I decided yes, it is okay as art is not only valuable, but is one of many essential social tools of education, without which poverty will never be eradicated.
When I opened the email next morning and saw a $2,000,000 donation from “a Christian, on the instruction of God to give you (me) the donation”, I was totally silenced. He was real, having won the mega lottery in Idaho. Shit, I thought, I could not accept that unless I told him I am not a Christian, otherwise I could never live my life without the guilt and for an immoral artist that would be a double sin.
After I replied with that confession, the emails offering the donation started rolling in. But my antennae were up… there were signs of fraud in the language. First of all, the letter was not addressed to me, it was: “Dear Friend”.
MacD and I talked about it and were convinced, it was fraud. I then started my game play with them. You can see that game in the following email exchanges, I do hope you enjoy it, I had a lot of fun with it. And maybe it will be beneficial to some people who receive these scam letters.
1.
From: Kristen Eckstrand
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:18 PM
To: Kristen Eckstrand
Subject: RE: Donation.
Mr Mccullar has picked you for a donation, contact him via Jim_Mccullar
2.
From: rod_
To: Jim_
Subject: Re: Donation..
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 01:37:24 -0300
Hello Mr. Mccullar,
I am responding to this email. It would be great to chat with you.
I have a phone but, have it disconnected while travelling in the USA.
Roaming, charges are extremely expensive. However, I can call out
from my computer Google phone.
Thanks you
Rod Malay
3.
From: Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 6:57 PM
To: Rod
Subject: RE: DONATION TO YOU.
Dear Friend,
I am Mr Jim McCullar I am a native of Idaho, United State Of America, Carolyn my wife and I have decided to make sure this is put on the internet for the world to see as you could see from the web page sent to you in our first mail, I may not know you, but I believe if you receive my first email and respond back meaning you were chosen by God to receive my donation of [$2,000,000.00 USD] you must be a God fearing individual, I am a Christian and I believe that Good things happens to good people like you who had the mind to respond back to my mail.
I am Mr Jim McCullar the mega winner of $190 Million Dollars Jackpot in Washington. WATCH US NOW:http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/jim-carolyn-mccullar-mega-millions-winners-12559371
You see after taken care of the needs of our immediate family members, we decided to donate the remaining of the fund to other individuals around the world in need, the local fire department, the Red Cross, Haiti, hospitals and some other organizations in Asia and Europe that fight cancer, I would love to introduce my self more and also show you picture of me and my family but firstly I want to hear from you if my gift of [$2,000,000.00 USD] is accepted by you before I proceed. Send me the below details to show that you accept my gift.
NAMES ROD Malay:.....
I am have been travelling in the United States of America and have my Canadian phone on sleep mode until I return to Canada
COUNTRY CANADA :.......
Thank you for accepting our offer, we are indeed grateful We anticipate your earliest response.
Best Regard
Jim McCullar
4.
From: rod
To: jim_mccullartrustfunds
Subject: Re: DONATION TO YOU.
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 22:07:52 -0300
Hello Jim,
Thank you for your very generous offer. I look forward to meeting you and you dear wife, Carolyn. Do you believe that God instructed you to donate this money to me? He does indeed work in “Strange ways”. But, I must tell you, I am not a Christian. If you withdraw your offer, I will understand.
What must I do next?
Cheers
Rod
5.
From: jim
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:14 PM
To: Rod
Subject: RE: Thanks for your response.
Dear Beloved Rod malay,
Thanks for your response, first, I have to thank you for your commitment to accept my gift and I assure you it’s a life time opportunity and 100% legitimate, the Two Million Dollars is going to pass through international laws and it's 100% risk free. I have a lawyer taking care of the documentation required to perfect the Two Million Dollars for you, and you don't have anything to worry about that because I am the one responsible for it.
I moved out of Washington United State Of America in April due to high risk of gunmen asking us for money and we were advised to leave the country for a while which we did Mitchell my grandson was kidnapped and I was asked to pay for him to be released which i did, we had to relocate to United Kingdom for a while and I am planning to come back to Idaho very soon. I must let you know that I am not getting any younger what i expect from you right now is trust and commitment because if you don't trust me you will find it difficult to accept my gift that is why you need to trust and believe me about this donation you are free to call me at anytime of the day
To facilitate the disbursement process of the TWO MILLION DOLLARS which have been donated solely to you, you are to re-confirm to me once again with your promise to carry-out the good work to every less privilege around in your community, such as the charities, churches, widows and widower. I do not want to ask you for your ID as we do not want to leave an impression in your mind that we want to steal your identity). I do hope that you will be able to use the money wisely and judiciously over there in your country. We will employ you to do what you can to alleviate the level of poverty in your region and also try to enhance the standard of living of as many people as you can because that is the only objective of donating this money to you in the first place.
Note that i’ll be responsible for all the document fees about the TWO MILLION DOLLARS which my lawyer need to carry out and you are the one who will be responsible about the Bank charges fee which is the HSBC bank in the United Kingdom.
I will be awaiting your urgent response with regarding your final decision about this donation to you, before i can be able to furnish you with the HSBC BANK contact information which is the payout bank.
Best Regard,
Jim McCullar
6.
From: rod_
To: Jim mccullartrustfunds
Subject: Re: Thanks for your response.
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:43:45 -0300
Dear Jim,
We will, along the way, at you convenience and pleasure, have a chance to meet and have, at least, dinner together and in London there are fine live theatres. Your generous offer overwhelms me.
Thank you.
What must I do next?
Rod
7.
From: Jim
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 3:02 PM
To: Rod
Subject: RE: CONTACT THE PAYOUT BANK.
Dear Beloved Rod malay,
This is to acknowledge the receipt of your last email and to confirm your reliability in this donation scheme. I am happy to inform you that I have forwarded your details over to the management of the payout bank, The HSBC Bank Plc UK. I know that they are alot of scam on the internet and everyone need to be very careful, so for me to prove myself this is my telephone number you can reach me at anytime of the day +(44)703-1983-983.
Now taking into cognizance the nature of the funds, United Kingdom Financial Security Act requires International beneficiaries like you is to pay for HSBC Bank Plc charges over here in the U.K., before they will transfer the [$2,000,000.00 USD], to your designated bank account anywhere in the world. I have therefore included a Donation Code Number to this message [JIM/231/2011BDB] which should be kept strictly confidential as you will use it in receiving your donation. You are to contact the management of The HSBC Bank Plc UK via email immediately as they have been authorized to transfer the fund to you by my lawyer and concluded all modalities associated with the wire transfer process.
HSBC BANK CONTACT INFORMATION
Bank Name: HSBC Bank Plc UK
Contact Person (Foreign Exchange Supervisor) : Mr Antonio Simoes
Bank Tel Number:
Bank Email Address: (hsbcfundremittancedept co.uk)
Mr.Antonio Simoes Email: (assimoes)
Bank Website: www.hsbc.co.uk/
Contact Mr.Antonio Simoes via this email (assimoes)
you are to provide him with your Donation Code Number [JIM/231/2011BDB] so that he can verify your identity with the details I sent over to their office earlier on today. Please endeavor to keep me fully informed on all developments with the payout bank so that I can also monitor the transfer process through a feedback from you. Your follow up and full cooperation is highly anticipated.
Best Regards,
Jim McCullar
8.
From: rod_malay@hotmail.com
To: assimoes; Jim_mccullartrustfunds
Subject: Re: CONTACT THE PAYOUT BANK 2
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:51:02 -0300
Dear Mr. Antonio Simoes
I am following the attached instructions. Please inform as to what next step I must perform.
Thank you
Rod Malay.
9.
From: Jim
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:16 AM
To: Rod
Subject: RE: EMAIL
Beloved Rod malay,
I got your mail and noticed how committed you are, what you ought to do is contact the HSBC bank and then get back to me with every necessary information you got from the Bank,
JIM.
Hsbc Holdings Bank Plc
10.
From: Rod
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:26 AM
To: Jim McCullar
Subject: RE: EMAIL
Thanks Jim, I have already done this and am waiting for a reply from the bank.
Cheers
Rod
11.
From: Antonio Simoes
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:08 PM
To: Rod
Subject: Re: CONTACT THE PAYOUT BANK 2
HSBC HOLDINGS BANK
24HOURS ONLINE-BANKING SERVICE
Registered in England.
Registered No: 1026167Q
Registered Office:
Canada Square LONDON, ENG E14 5HQ United Kingdom
Dear Esteemed Customer: Rod Malay,
Compliment of the day to you from HSBC Holdings Plc, United Kingdom. Britain finest and concise online banking institution with a global perspective. Our unique service trend in the European and world market speaks volume of how we hold our greatest assets (customers) in high regards.Our affiliation with the Santander group makes us a leading financial stronghold. There are a whole lot of services and products that we offer which in the long run is a far higher edge than our contemporaries in the financial market, this is why even in the face of the current financial distress pervading world market we are way ahead and still waxing stronger in financial circles.
We have confirm the instructions from the Mr Jim McCullar, instructing us to immediately open an online temporal debit account in your name; and transfer your approved grant funds of $2,000,000USD = £1,289,158.18 GBP from their personal foundation account to you via permission within the next Three (3) working days from the Cheque that was submitted to us, Our on-line temporal account opening will enable us to immediately make any further transfer of your payment funds to your designated personal bank account in your country.
As a Non-Resident of the UNITED KINGDOM, you are required to set up a Non-Resident Online/Offshore account with our Bank. This online/offshore account will be set up in your name by our Bank HSBC Holdings Plc.) As soon as you meet up to our corporate policy, you will have your account setup.
New Customer applying for Online Account & Transfer Fill and Return the below Manual Account Opening Form.
Manual Account Opening Form
Reference: International Application ID no:
Do you want an account with HSBC BANK:
First Name:
Last Name:
Date of Birth:
City/State:
Country:
Occupation:
Nationality:
Sex:
E-mail:
Tel:
Office Tel:
Account type:
Initial Deposit of Account:
Date of payment:
NEW CUSTOMER COMPLETE REG: ****************************************************************************
IMPORTANT NOTICE: Read the below carefully before attempting to fill out the Account you would want us to open for you
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All account types requires an initial deposit by customers before account can be setup, Note this deposit is the cash needed to setup your account and will be deposited into your newly setup account after it has been opened by the HSBC HOLDINGS PLC.
Please kindly read the below account and select your affordable account choice with initial deposit.
1. PERSONAL ACCOUNT: This type of account requires a minimum initial deposit of £448.00 GBP equivalent to $670.00 USD (Six Hundred And Seventy USD), this amount is required to set-up your new account to a fully operational account. The maximum transfer possible within a month with this Account is £7,000,000.00 (Seven million pounds) within one month or the equivalent amount in another currency; and with this account you can apply for a gold membership credit card after a good business relationship of one year minimum.
2. CORPORATE ACCOUNT: This is a daily business account and the initial opening deposit is £501.00 GBP equivalent to $750.00 USD (Seven Hundred and Fifty USD) this amount is required to set-up your new account to a fully operational account. The maximum transfer possible within a month with this Account is £15,000,000.00 (Fifteen million pounds) or the equivalent amount in another currency; and with this account you can apply for a gold membership credit card after a good business relationship of five months minimum.
3. PLATINUM ACCOUNT: This is a daily personal and business account and the initial opening deposit is £568.739 GBP equivalent to $850.00 USD (Eight Hundred And Fifty USD) this amount is required is to set-up your new account to a fully operational account. The maximum transfer possible within a month is unlimited; and with this account you can apply for a gold membership credit card after a good business relationship of three months minimum.
Please Note: That your funds is protected by a hardcover insurance policy, which makes it impossible to deduct any amount from the funds in bank draft before its been remitted to you. This means that the above charges for opening an account cannot be deducted from the funds and hence must be provided by you before your funds can take effect for transfer. You are strictly advice to choose an account type listed above and we shall instruct you to make the payment upon the opening balance kindly fill and return the online account form below. This amount is refundable upon request if you decide to close your account. As soon as your account is set up, you will have an account number and an access code with which you can access your account through our online facilities from your home which will also enable you check your account balance and also make transfer to any account in the world.
On receipt of the information, you shall be educated on the process mastered to facilitate this transaction in the earliest. For more info please call
Thank you for your patronage.
FOREIGN EXCHANGE SUPERVISOR
MR. ANTONIO SIMOES
Hsbc Bank Plc
Registered in England.
Registered No: 1026167Q
Registered Office:Canada Square LONDON, ENG E14 5HQ United Kingdom.
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Anyone caught not abiding with these rules will be made to face the law as all communications are officially meant for Hsbc Bank Plc customers only.
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12.
From: rod_
To: jim_
Subject: Re: EMAIL
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:47:27 -0300
Dear Lovely, kind and generous Jim,
I am afraid that God is not being very honest and upfront with you or me. Do you know what those banks are demanding of me before they will release your great, heart felt donation to me. They are basically asking me to open an off-shore account, which is probably illegal in Canada in any case, and then send them a fee of nearly $1000 in Canadian dollars. How about simply sending me a cashiers check and I will deposit it in my account. That would be much more simple and then I will know that I am not breaking any Canadian laws, which is a big issue these days, as you know people are doing all kinds of criminal or a least immoral dealings to avoid taxes. I support my country’s tax system as it is doing exactly what you are asking of me with the donation... to help people in my country for a better life. That is what our tax dollars do... creating social programs to make life better for all people. I support my government in this ideology. It seems contradictory to your personal mission in life to have banks, basically, steal money from the people. I imagine you are as surprised as am I, as to what these criminals, defrauders are doing with the good money of good people like you. Will you please call the bank and tell them to drop that requirement and make out a cashiers check instead.
Dear Jim, I am so sorry and so embarrassed about this complication. I makes absolutely sick and frankly... pissed of as I am sure you are. Even if I had the money to pay these bank fees, I would not do it... would not break our country’s laws. I have my principles. Let me tell you my story.
I have been travelling around the USA in my old van on an art tour and I blew an engine. I am stuck now at this old service station in New Orleans and busking on Bourbon Street, with the prostitutes and Fortune Tellers to make a few bucks to get my engine fixed. The Fortune Tellers told me not to worry, that I am going to come into a lot of money. I never believe any of these stories. But, to make matters even worse, when I thought it was not possible, things got worse. What could be worse than not being able to get back to my old Nova Scotia home while living on cans of beans and sleeping in my old van outside this old smelly service. The people are very nice, as they are all good Christians. They give me lunches sometimes and invite me to their Church and wow… can these Black people sing the gospel and pray to the lord. They joke that that they are going to make a Christian out of me yet.
I am paying the garage owner the few bucks I make from busking each day, as he works at putting in a used engine in my old van. But, to make matters even worse, I got word from my brother back home that our dear 87 year old mother had a car accident. I am absolutely sick. She is still alive, with a broken pelvis (and that is not good for an old person). The steering wheel punched into her chest and broke her sternum. She can hardly breath. She would have been dead, as her car plunged into a lake, except the driver behind her saw what happened and he dove into the icy water and pulled her out of the car.
My mom is a tough woman and a devote Christian, She taught us good values as we were growing up. She is always out around the community doing the work of Jesus for every one. They will miss her terribly. The doctors say she is in very bad shape and only God can pull her through. And I cannot get home to be by her side.
Just when I thought, I cannot get through this and death would be a blessing, you wonderful Jim McCullar, of Idaho, came into my life with a donation of $2,000,000.00. You said God had chosen me to receive your “Christian” gift. That Fortune Teller lady was very wise. Do you think Jim, that the lady is some how connected to God? Wow Jim I cannot believe it. The Fortune Teller, these wonderful Christian folks here in New Orleans and now you… my “Spirit” was flying high in the heavens, Jim . I felt totally drawn back to my Christian roots. Finally, I thought, I will be able to get back home to Nova Scotia and pay for my moms very expensive medical bills, that will save her life. And now I feel so, so embarrassed… and deathly sick that I have to disappoint you…I’m so sorry to do this to you. Please forgive me. I am in total misery again.
To repeat what I said above...I got the letter, copied below, from the HSBC Bank in the United Kingdom telling me they are ready to transfer the money to my Canadian bank account but, I will have to pay the very big sum of “bank fees” $1,000 ,which is impossible. I cannot pay this. I can hardly afford a can of beans for supper. I guess now your legal assistants will have to withdraw the $2,000,000.00 offer to me. I am sure God will find you another needy recipient. Thanks anyway Jim… you are a good man. God bless you.
With Thanks
Yours sincerely
Rod Malay
13.
From: Jim McCullar
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 4:59 AM
To: Rod
Subject: RE: EMAIL
Beloved Rod malay,
What you ought to know is there are other beneficiary which will also claim this gift from the HSBC bank, so i would advice you to look for funds and set up this account, once this is done your funds would be transferred to any domestic account of your choice, raise up any amount and then get back to me.
14.
From: Rod
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 1:37 PM
To: Jim McCullar
Subject: Re: EMAIL
Dear Mr. Crockster (AKA Jim McCullar),
I wish to thank you for your delightful and charming cooperation with assisting me in the creation of this story for my new media journal: THE SECULAR CELL. It truly was an inspiring journey in the genre of fabrication. It will go out on Facebook in a couple of hours, for the whole world to see, as a brief cautionary, instructional paper on internet fraud. This is my social duty. And who knows, I might even make a few real bucks. You see, as an artist, my part of this story “scheme” is virtually 100% true, where as your side is a total and corrupt lie.
You should be ashamed of yourself for appropriating the good name of an honest man for your evil endeavours. I will of course send a copy of this story along to the real Jim McCullar. I am sure he will get quite a chuckle out of it. You have by now figured out that I was onto your little fairy-tale from the beginning. However, call it masochism, I always enjoy stringing people like you along as far as possible... to waste your valuable time while having a bit of fun along the way, as I practice my writing skills.
Thanks again and by the way... I have sent all of my correspondence with you off to Interpol and HSBC
Have a nice day... hopefully the weather is cold and miserable and the bullets are wising by your head as you are reading this and I wish you all the best bad luck possible in your chosen profession.
Cheers
Rod Malay
rod_malay@hotmail.com
Thursday, March 19, 2015
A SAD MAN
A SAD MAN finally appeared last night at Galleria Unplugged (my gallery of the streets) in South Florida very briefly for a photo op in this blog. Did I tell you that I have now graduated from the UoU (University at the door Of the Universe) with a degree: Passionné de Contraire. This is my aspiration to elevate myself above the argument of whether one should use pepper or salt... Though not to a position of exclusivity, as in "better than thou", but certainly outside the milieu of the rhetorical, if that is possible in my case, as a stupid, indoctrinated boy from the forest.
A SAD MAN, my latest work of art, will be a test of my academic achievement, the posit of which resulted in a book, which is now in manuscript form, ready to go to the publisher. This book will be available for sale at any venue where I will present my art and spoken word performance.
I am now faced with a new challenge, that will require me to defend myself, intelligently and with a sanguine state of mind while not looking entirely imbecilic.
A SAD MAN is graphic, so I feel I must expose him with a level of judicious advice to young and innocent minds. He arrives amid a global outcry at male predator abuse against women and children and at this time when media buttons are flashing all over the board, stirring up reactions of rage and hysteria at tsunamic levels… enough to cut the dick of every man on the face of the earth.
In this mob tide, A SAD MAN appears, ready to be dangled, innocent or guilty, from that big old oak branch on boot hill.
It is here where I take my stand…
Ready to defend that magnificent sexual man
From global castration
To travel with me in my van
To stand in his corner like a man
Bold, compassionate, re-pute-able
Against the toxic, mindless babble
Selamat tinggal
Rod
Monday, March 2, 2015
Back to Ego and Other Boxes
Note: I included the first two or three pages of this post, yesterday but some other commentary came in from MacD that took us into some contentious territory so, I wanted to add that, at the risk, of course, of boring you. It does point out one of my problem character flows, which she points out as “knee jerk” reaction. She is right as I recognize it in other of my siblings. Having it pointed out is stingy but, constructive. That flaw is needing to have the last word, even if the listener has fallen asleep as I have travelled off into flat land… a bit of hyperbole but, am sure you get the point.
Rod
My DAAARRRRLIN’ you have written a lot of interesting commentary here. Sometimes I think we, you and I are riding on the same psychic wave...
MacD
Here are some questions:
Is the task at hand to encourage thought through the creation of an object? Or is it to measure the impact of its expression (validation)?
Rod
I think the “object”... the product?, be it material or philosophical is what arrives out of thought, incidentally... idealistically... thought and the freedom of thought, being the objective
MacD
And just how does one measure that impact? Through societal means? i.e. recognition, praise, money, publicity, demand? These are ego pursuits.
Rod
Is “ego” learned? and if it is, then it is a parasite on the back of praise, recognition, etc., for survival… in fear of demise. I do have an ego but, it seems to be waning in face of my need to develop eloquence or perfection, which are the products of the external world... applied ego? If we succeed at survival... at the skill, for instance, of killing a beast, we feel better, as our belly is full and future killings require less energy, more productivity, more leisure time. Does ego arrive at this point? you teach your child the skill at successful procreation. Then arrives ‘satisfaction’... pride, with pats on the back. Everyone is happier. If it is for the success of the tribe...is it evil? Is it ego or does it become ego if it rewards only yourself and not the community, where others are placed in servitude for your benefit, your ego?
I think a performer on stage, giving people delight, is healthy for the audience [tribe]... If the performer, the teacher is skilful, the tribe becomes more healthy and gives a pat on the back or a buck in the pocket from the knowledge imparted to the tribe, with a new level of awareness.. an enhanced level of survival. The performer becomes the hunter/teacher. Ego arrives if the hunter does this for his own profit, that leads to the servitude of others.
As you can see...I am stumbling my way through this investigation of the meaning of “ego”. Now I say “eloquence and perfection’ are not externally applied but, come from within, as one’s skill grows, that ideally brings with it the success of the tribe. Ego is a corrupt character flaw that is influenced from a genetic default... the selfish gene, which is socialized out from childhood but, is ever present and brings debauchery, when ego steps into the theatre of the absurd. ”
MacD
So it's all about getting one's voice heard, then validated as influential---but how do we ever determine its influence?
Rod
Its influence is validated/successful if the tribe is truly and honestly satisfied or happy, without regret or cynicism.
MacD
I'm thinking of a lone canary singing a beautifully brilliant song. He sings and sings, not a mating cry, just a long and uniquely precious voice singing away without thought of an audience. He sings because he can and because he needs to, and it is enough. He cannot know that the tiny child a mile away is so taken with the canary's melody that his inner music is awakened and he becomes a talented composer. The canary sings because he has a voice, and it is enough.
He isn't seeking praise or payment or even impact.
There is a conflict of interest in our needs. One is to express. The other is to receive validation for the expression. One is clear and true. The other is a societal package. How can they both live in the same body?
Rod
If they live in the same body there is conflict... external, destructive conflict.
Of course, this is all from my source of Poetic Authority
MacD
Lately I’ve been wondering if I've lost my mind….or finally found my voice. I'm hoping it's the latter. I feel like I've made a wonderful discovery that answers a million agonizing questions I've had through life. And here I am writing to a man that knew this all along. Like I've jumped out of the mainstream into mental clarity.
Man needs his life to having meaning and purpose, whether it's misconceived, illusionary, or bang on the money. Isn't that the driving force behind ambition no matter the goal? Once he's figured out the vehicle to reach that goal, he seeks confirmation of having achieved it.
Rod
Morally and ideally, he seeks confirmation by a happy tribe, lest he arrives at internal conflict and external unhappiness, which of course can lead to a multiple of disastrous outcomes from an ego in decline.
MacD
The artist creates to express himself, to draw attention and interest, and his measure of achievement is in concrete results.
Rod
The artist creates to educate himself, to improve his skills
MacD
Attaining the result is the most difficult and unpredictable step in his quest. The lack of a desired result can look like failure based on our social constructs of success. But I believe the unique expression in itself is the validation. If Man undoes his cultural packaging and expresses a new vision, the goal is achieved. It is a life of meaning and purpose and does not require external validation. The imprint of his work is permanent and not measurable under the terms of society. Validation is achieved when another man is directly or indirected ignited by the flow of unpackaged thought, but how and where can we be sure the flow originated with another person's expression?
Rod
I believe in the “unpackaging” to achieve new vision, new skills
MacD: Validation from society is an ego pursuit...
Rod: If there is corruption.
MacD
Ego IS the entire character. Ego is SELF. We learn that we are separate and the ego is born. Our view of the world is through our ego. And egos need to be fed. Feed it praise, acceptance, etc as a developing young ego and a healthier adult may result. Feed it criticism, verbal abuse, or neglect it completely and mental disturbances develop. An unhealthy parent's ego will damage the child's view of himself in relation to the world.
The consciousness I have spoken of before lives outside of the ego and is the part of us that has no ego, but it is still within.(In my view it is connected with all living things). Easier name is Higher Self, if you will. My personal goal is to live through that part of myself, and less through ego. Higher Self is present when we are born, but ego takes over because it's the channel of humanity.
Ego currently rules the world. People like Mother Teresa may have been able to live fully in their 'higher selves'. And maybe the Buddha, Jesus, Krishna as well.
But society is run by a collection of self serving egos operating as politicians. The real leaders are the big money corporations whose 'ethic' is bottom line and not humankind. We've allowed the real leaders to shape us, tell us what we want, need, must have. Corporations have written the acceptable status code for our society through years of advertising manipulation. Fucking bastards.
Your comment that validation for the artist comes when the tribe is happier or successful….I'm working on that one. Happiness as a goal makes me somewhat uncomfortable. It might just be semantics.
There is an expression…..you can define a man by how he rewards himself. We live in a happy-crazed society where everyone's goal in life is to 'be happy'. It's not achievable as a goal externally, in my view. To me happiness is the byproduct of serving mankind well during our lifetime.
I'm sure I'll have more to say……….I've tuned in to a couple of Alan Watts' videos on YouTube….are you familiar with him?
MacD
If I change the words "Higher Self" to Eloquence, is it still bullshit?
Rod
WOW... here is a very quick impulsive response, as I am right in the middle of other writing stuff. That sounds like a lot of Jungian, Freudian, etc, etc rhetorical bullshit in a “box” which I have red about along the way . But, I am anxious to get to a more considered reply to you shortly….
I read through you letter again and I still come out with a similar sentiment. The challenge I have before me is to articulate my emotion, my passion on that box of this ego mumbo jumbo stuff. I have been reading Jung, which includes his assessment of Freud, his former teacher and friend. They parted company over Freud’s sexual emphasis. I parted company with Jung (temporarily) with his religious emphasis... that was about half way through the book, which was given to me by a psychologist friend of Lulu’s... “Memories Dreams and Reflections”.
It is interesting that one often hears about psychologists needing their private psychologist... because they are “so fucked up”? It is also interesting how so many people need psychologists these days and what do they, the psychs do ... ask the client questions and provide no answers. This HUGH psychology industry
(religion?) has so much invested in their dogma that they must keep coming up with new mental issues to feed themselves and they do this by ever sectioning out parts of the brain to a new problem. They will soon be using a microscopic sectioning device.
I have never been to a psychologist and will never venture there. They are highly over rated and terrified, no doubt, of creating crazies out of their clients.
“These victims of the psychic dichotomy of our times are merely optional neurotics; their apparent morbidity drops away the moment the gulf between the ego and the unconscious is closed. The doctor who has felt this dichotomy to the depths of his being will be able to reach a better understanding of the unconscious psychic processes, and will be saved from the danger of inflation to which the psychologist is prone” Jung pg 144
This is interesting...I just picked that book up again, as I carry these thinking motivators with me in my van and I simply opened it to a page and wrote down the first line that registered in my eyes.
I have a problem with the unconscious being “closed” as I feel it is never so. It is
often on the surface, during the day and at night in dreams.
I never had a problem with “ego” as I never knew about it except in casual conversations like... “He has a big ego”. They were called bullies and you put them in detention and don’t let them have a piece of that birthday cake, that they love.
Here it is here... just found this which will help me to start helping to articulate my feeling on all this boxed rhetorical psychology bullshit on ids, egos, anima/animus. I need to trust myself more... with my poetic authority. Yet I do have duty to not be rude or arrogant in responses. I must be articulate and eloquent, which I feel has nothing to do with ego...
Overview http://www.textetc.com/theory/jung.html
Jung's psychiatry is as much a myth as Freud's, and no more successful in treating mental illness (i.e beyond providing a listening ear), but does provide a broader perspective. Artists are not seen as neurotics, and Jung's archetypes resemble Lakoff and Johnson's schemas.
Introduction
Carl Jung (1875-1961) rejected the mechanistic and reductive aspects of Freud's work and broadened psychoanalysis to include art, mythology and the thought processes of native peoples. He was much closer to common sense than Freud, and gradually moved away from a causative model of personality. Psychic energy was not entirely or even fundamentally sexual in origin. Not all neuroses were rooted in childhood development: one needed to consider the present circumstances, and what hopes the client entertained towards the future.
Jung saw the psyche or total personality as several interacting systems. In place of Freud's superego, ego and id, Jung recognized an ego, a personal unconscious and a collective unconscious. In the personal unconscious were to be found various complexes, and in the collective unconscious were archetypal dispositions to think, perceive and act in a certain way
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WOW... this is exhausting... but, thanks for opening this up... am sure we will continue I think... I will go back to Jung for a bit. I simply find too much typical, over used, worn out ideology in that tired old box of words and phrases
MacD
Well Mr. Malay, move on from Jung to something more recent. While valuable, it is quite tired and dated. You can trust that I've spent a lot of time on the subject of psychology. A lot has happened in the discipline since Jung and Freud, but they were the originators who lived in extremely sexually uptight times. It is what it is. A good jumping off point for study. Early medical doctors 'bled' people, remember?
When I read your words I am reminded of Scientology…which espouses the same views towards psychologists.
It is difficult to be objective when considering a line of thought. Our biases scream first, our brain jumps in second. Roddie, my friend, I feel your vehemence against any mention of God or soul or spirit. You are certainly entitled to your opinions, but I'm saddened that other positions are not allowed air without insult.
Who of us is certain about what is and what isn't?
I've been to many psychologists and a couple/three psychiatrists (the difference being they become medical doctors first). I didn't like it or benefit from it. I suspect most therapists are glorified social workers. But it doesn't mean the discipline is without merit, or that there are no effective psychologists out there somewhere.
The Ego is a central concept in any kind of work I've read by any psychologist. It may have a different name, but it means the same thing. It is one's concept of himself within the context of his world. I'm not sure one has to be a good student of psychology to have insight into his own thoughts and motivations.
I believe along with you that the population is pretty fucked up today. That's a whole other subject I've thought a good deal about, but that's for another day.
This is all material for THE BOOK. I've been inspired by you and I'm already knee deep.
By the way, the dictionary lists "rhetoric" as a synonym for "eloquence". Interesting.
Rod
Yes... you are right... move on but, you did ask about ego. I gave an opinion and not an aggressive one and you came back with a authoritative declaration on the subject that I read as not poetic rather written in stone from another era, that I found challenging. So I grouped around on the subject attempting to articulate a response, that even I was not all that happy with.
“Ego is self!” is that a recent declaration or did Freud declare it so or is that your invention, your discovery. I never really gave it any thought, except because of your letter that started all this intrigue, where I responded with a separation of ego from self ."Ego” is an ancient descriptive of one’s essence, I suppose and it really does not have a favourable reputation so how can it be the “all” of self, when the self is composed of other character descriptives, that are more favourable.
“The consciousness I have spoken of before lives outside of the ego and is the part of us that has no ego” you say. Is this not a contradiction against “Ego is Self”.
I have never studied scientology but, I would not want to be in that club. Tom Cruise and a few other Hollywood ding bats are members. In fact I do not want to be in anyone’s club
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You are a challenging lady my “DEAR” friend
Now lets see the other issues.
Yes, I definitely have an issue with ignorance. I was awaken out of sleep this morning with this thought: All religions are hate crimes against humanity. Religions become a target of ridicule as they violate civil liberties and human rights. This is especially so in the case of women, as well as many other social issues... homosexuality, stem cell research, abortion, euthanasia and others I forget. So this is a contradiction to the so called “benevolent God in Heaven” or where ever in hell he lives. So why should I be tolerant of religion, of “GOD”. There is some parallel here, though certainly not as extreme, with recent journalists espousing an “ideology” of the “Islamic State” to explain their debauchery, when they are simply reptilian butcherers.
This is not me feeling insulted... it is me challenging the dumbing down language of: “Who of us is certain about what is and what isn't?”. In my Poetic Authority... there is no “is” Rhetorical it is yes... eloquent it is not. I will not hide my opinion on this nor will I challenges any who do not challenge me on this subject but, it is bedding down with law breakers.
Words have different meanings in different contexts. There is no question that some politicians are eloquent rhetoricalists, the bastards... Harper not included, though a bastard he is. For me, eloquent means expressiveness, poise, wittiness if possible, articulation in my search for creative invention but not for the parroting of worn out hackney proverbs.
Bon soir MacD
MacD
Here we go again. There is definitely a problem discussing/debating/exploring subjects when not face to face. Seems like we both put our "dukes" up. You asked questions about the 'ego', and I told you what I knew, perhaps not well. Then you called it bullshit, then I felt insulted, then I insulted you so-to-speak, and on and on. The written word is not the perfect communicator.
You asked me about ego. I didn't make the term 'ego' up. Even the dictionary on my macbook defines it as "a person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance", which is rather vague I agree. But I feel clear about its meaning in psychological terms and don't think I asked you for an explanation. Why do we get so hung up on semantics? It takes me so far away from the crux of my intended message. Like a skirmish on the sidelines.
But perhaps digging into words helps crystallize the argument for one or the other. On the subject of speaking with a voice that is heard as "authoritative and not poetic", I surrender. We've been through that one and my understanding of how you 'hear' my words is still fuzzy, so it will likely continue as I don't know how to change it, even if I wanted to.
I'm grateful we have these exploration of ideas and thoughts that we exchange. You do frustrate me, as I do you, but I feel I am expanding my knowledge and understanding and I hope you see it that way too.
I heard this expression years ago, and I try to keep it in mind, "He who argues with the loudest voice is still trying to convince himself".
This morning I'm writing about uber-consumerism for THE BOOK. Just my perspective and not as an expert.
Rod
Well...
I am not upset, frustrated or insulted. On the contrary, what I am finding ever more intriguing is the glib use of our language, a use that spreads across all languages. The word “Ego” so easily and mindlessly slips off the tongue that it is pragmatically ineffective. This is so with a huge percentage of our language.
I am actually, methodically, working toward a more effective voicing in how I use language and so shy away from words that are so commonplace that the listerner has stopped listening. I have not yet succeeded in precise, economic use in my utterances. But a lot of people have achieved that goal and they become my tutor heroes in the art of communication. The ego crap of my genetic code has a lot of influence in my indoctrinated behaviour. I see it as the hegemony invader... like Putin. I suppose ego, if it is “self” might be akin to cancer cells, that I understand rests through the human body but remains dormant... in healthy bodies, with high immunity firewalls?
Can I get back to the “original'’ mould, to speak from my own centre where my personal receptors have not been tampered with by the predominance of trespassers.
The term “consciousness” fits within the glib language box, so over used that it is meaningless and one loses ones audience the moment it is uttered, unless it now becomes a creature of etymological investigation. In the interim it is off my communications list, as is “ego”. So, I do my best to replace them with other descriptions, as I did with the skill of the hunter in the tribe, where by the way, he was not seeking to find happiness for himself but, was looking at the level of the happiness factor in the tribe (audience) as an indicator to the pragmatic achievement level of his skill and the added benefit of leisure time. I used the word “eloquence” to describe this but, now I am disappointed with that word since it is even feebly related to “rhetoric”. I have not yet thrown it into that box but, I will go back and examine my use of it.
MacD
I'm asking myself these questions:
The brain, the mind, the ego, the subconscious and the conscious self….how would I define their meaning in relation to each other?
Where does 'consciousness' fit in? Is the mind separate from consciousness?
Interesting. I like your idea regarding words/communication.
I do agree that many words today have lost their meaning, such as 'depression' when referring to being bummed out or sad. "Grow" your business---that's another one, and "branding" yet another. But I think 'consciousness' has probably the most confusing and misunderstood usage. Today there is a 'consciousness movement', mostly online social media driven which is huge. I enjoy it and I'm delighted to see a younger generation fed up with how we currently do things. That doesn't mean I agree with everything posted. I'm also okay with my usage of 'ego'.
The trouble is that the list of words we think are overused or misused are different for everyone. I happen to think 'bullshit' is overused, and certainly doesn't possess it's original meaning. It's value is in packing a punch, like slamming a door.
And I do like the word eloquence in the context you intend. Frankly, I think it would be easier to replace the word rhetoric, and keep 'eloquence'. I don't think people use 'eloquence' to mean rhetoric or persuasiveness.
Well today I've been up and down working on final negotiations on a house we're selling. This is the buyer's fourth offer, and we've been at it for 4 months. So no work on THE BOOK today.
Rod
Consciousness goes back to my thoughts on genetic memory and my Secular Cell… a simple biological explanation, void of the myths of psychiatric authority.
MacD
It occurs to me that we both possess "buttons" I'm thinking of this now, not as it relates to discussions between us, but in terms of the ideologies we possess and espouse in general. I see 'buttons' as emotional triggers resulting in a conditioned knee-jerk reactions, learned over time, for whatever reason. I also see them as weaknesses. Personally, I would like to overcome these buttons I possess so that my thinking remains clear and open and not hijacked by unidentified emotional baggage that clouds my reception and consideration of alternate ideas. Having certain buttons that kick off a reaction may be very understandable given someone's history, but they steal opportunities and take away from learning. Like a wheel rolling along new ground and suddenly slipping into a well worn and unhelpful rut.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to once again try to see my buttons for what they are, and tamper them back down where they belong.
Rod
Yeah... true but, some buttons are precious and should not be junked carelessly. They often are gut reactions to important issues that define our identity, that make us human, lest we might simply be robots. No need to apologise, take offence or indeed, defend. Let the buttons flash red as demand arises but, hang onto humour to moderate the passion, yet not so to depreciate the importance of the issue.
Sir John A Macdonald comes to mind... Drunk in the Parliament House, he throws up and responds with, '’Every time I look across at the opposition I throw up”
MacD
That's funny! It reminds me of Winston Churchill, when being told by his (not well liked) hostess, "Churchill, you are drunk!!", to which he replies, "Yes, I am. But you, Madam, are ugly. And I will be sober in the morning."
Play
Rod
My DAAARRRRLIN’ you have written a lot of interesting commentary here. Sometimes I think we, you and I are riding on the same psychic wave...
MacD
Here are some questions:
Is the task at hand to encourage thought through the creation of an object? Or is it to measure the impact of its expression (validation)?
Rod
I think the “object”... the product?, be it material or philosophical is what arrives out of thought, incidentally... idealistically... thought and the freedom of thought, being the objective
MacD
And just how does one measure that impact? Through societal means? i.e. recognition, praise, money, publicity, demand? These are ego pursuits.
Rod
Is “ego” learned? and if it is, then it is a parasite on the back of praise, recognition, etc., for survival… in fear of demise. I do have an ego but, it seems to be waning in face of my need to develop eloquence or perfection, which are the products of the external world... applied ego? If we succeed at survival... at the skill, for instance, of killing a beast, we feel better, as our belly is full and future killings require less energy, more productivity, more leisure time. Does ego arrive at this point? you teach your child the skill at successful procreation. Then arrives ‘satisfaction’... pride, with pats on the back. Everyone is happier. If it is for the success of the tribe...is it evil? Is it ego or does it become ego if it rewards only yourself and not the community, where others are placed in servitude for your benefit, your ego?
I think a performer on stage, giving people delight, is healthy for the audience [tribe]... If the performer, the teacher is skilful, the tribe becomes more healthy and gives a pat on the back or a buck in the pocket from the knowledge imparted to the tribe, with a new level of awareness.. an enhanced level of survival. The performer becomes the hunter/teacher. Ego arrives if the hunter does this for his own profit, that leads to the servitude of others.
As you can see...I am stumbling my way through this investigation of the meaning of “ego”. Now I say “eloquence and perfection’ are not externally applied but, come from within, as one’s skill grows, that ideally brings with it the success of the tribe. Ego is a corrupt character flaw that is influenced from a genetic default... the selfish gene, which is socialized out from childhood but, is ever present and brings debauchery, when ego steps into the theatre of the absurd. ”
MacD
So it's all about getting one's voice heard, then validated as influential---but how do we ever determine its influence?
Rod
Its influence is validated/successful if the tribe is truly and honestly satisfied or happy, without regret or cynicism.
MacD
I'm thinking of a lone canary singing a beautifully brilliant song. He sings and sings, not a mating cry, just a long and uniquely precious voice singing away without thought of an audience. He sings because he can and because he needs to, and it is enough. He cannot know that the tiny child a mile away is so taken with the canary's melody that his inner music is awakened and he becomes a talented composer. The canary sings because he has a voice, and it is enough.
He isn't seeking praise or payment or even impact.
There is a conflict of interest in our needs. One is to express. The other is to receive validation for the expression. One is clear and true. The other is a societal package. How can they both live in the same body?
Rod
If they live in the same body there is conflict... external, destructive conflict.
Of course, this is all from my source of Poetic Authority
MacD
Lately I’ve been wondering if I've lost my mind….or finally found my voice. I'm hoping it's the latter. I feel like I've made a wonderful discovery that answers a million agonizing questions I've had through life. And here I am writing to a man that knew this all along. Like I've jumped out of the mainstream into mental clarity.
Man needs his life to having meaning and purpose, whether it's misconceived, illusionary, or bang on the money. Isn't that the driving force behind ambition no matter the goal? Once he's figured out the vehicle to reach that goal, he seeks confirmation of having achieved it.
Rod
Morally and ideally, he seeks confirmation by a happy tribe, lest he arrives at internal conflict and external unhappiness, which of course can lead to a multiple of disastrous outcomes from an ego in decline.
MacD
The artist creates to express himself, to draw attention and interest, and his measure of achievement is in concrete results.
Rod
The artist creates to educate himself, to improve his skills
MacD
Attaining the result is the most difficult and unpredictable step in his quest. The lack of a desired result can look like failure based on our social constructs of success. But I believe the unique expression in itself is the validation. If Man undoes his cultural packaging and expresses a new vision, the goal is achieved. It is a life of meaning and purpose and does not require external validation. The imprint of his work is permanent and not measurable under the terms of society. Validation is achieved when another man is directly or indirected ignited by the flow of unpackaged thought, but how and where can we be sure the flow originated with another person's expression?
Rod
I believe in the “unpackaging” to achieve new vision, new skills
MacD: Validation from society is an ego pursuit...
Rod: If there is corruption.
MacD
The consciousness I have spoken of before lives outside of the ego and is the part of us that has no ego, but it is still within.(In my view it is connected with all living things). Easier name is Higher Self, if you will. My personal goal is to live through that part of myself, and less through ego. Higher Self is present when we are born, but ego takes over because it's the channel of humanity.
Ego currently rules the world. People like Mother Teresa may have been able to live fully in their 'higher selves'. And maybe the Buddha, Jesus, Krishna as well.
But society is run by a collection of self serving egos operating as politicians. The real leaders are the big money corporations whose 'ethic' is bottom line and not humankind. We've allowed the real leaders to shape us, tell us what we want, need, must have. Corporations have written the acceptable status code for our society through years of advertising manipulation. Fucking bastards.
Your comment that validation for the artist comes when the tribe is happier or successful….I'm working on that one. Happiness as a goal makes me somewhat uncomfortable. It might just be semantics.
There is an expression…..you can define a man by how he rewards himself. We live in a happy-crazed society where everyone's goal in life is to 'be happy'. It's not achievable as a goal externally, in my view. To me happiness is the byproduct of serving mankind well during our lifetime.
I'm sure I'll have more to say……….I've tuned in to a couple of Alan Watts' videos on YouTube….are you familiar with him?
If I change the words "Higher Self" to Eloquence, is it still bullshit?
Rod
WOW... here is a very quick impulsive response, as I am right in the middle of other writing stuff. That sounds like a lot of Jungian, Freudian, etc, etc rhetorical bullshit in a “box” which I have red about along the way . But, I am anxious to get to a more considered reply to you shortly….
I read through you letter again and I still come out with a similar sentiment. The challenge I have before me is to articulate my emotion, my passion on that box of this ego mumbo jumbo stuff. I have been reading Jung, which includes his assessment of Freud, his former teacher and friend. They parted company over Freud’s sexual emphasis. I parted company with Jung (temporarily) with his religious emphasis... that was about half way through the book, which was given to me by a psychologist friend of Lulu’s... “Memories Dreams and Reflections”.
It is interesting that one often hears about psychologists needing their private psychologist... because they are “so fucked up”? It is also interesting how so many people need psychologists these days and what do they, the psychs do ... ask the client questions and provide no answers. This HUGH psychology industry
(religion?) has so much invested in their dogma that they must keep coming up with new mental issues to feed themselves and they do this by ever sectioning out parts of the brain to a new problem. They will soon be using a microscopic sectioning device.
I have never been to a psychologist and will never venture there. They are highly over rated and terrified, no doubt, of creating crazies out of their clients.
“These victims of the psychic dichotomy of our times are merely optional neurotics; their apparent morbidity drops away the moment the gulf between the ego and the unconscious is closed. The doctor who has felt this dichotomy to the depths of his being will be able to reach a better understanding of the unconscious psychic processes, and will be saved from the danger of inflation to which the psychologist is prone” Jung pg 144
This is interesting...I just picked that book up again, as I carry these thinking motivators with me in my van and I simply opened it to a page and wrote down the first line that registered in my eyes.
I have a problem with the unconscious being “closed” as I feel it is never so. It is
often on the surface, during the day and at night in dreams.
I never had a problem with “ego” as I never knew about it except in casual conversations like... “He has a big ego”. They were called bullies and you put them in detention and don’t let them have a piece of that birthday cake, that they love.
Here it is here... just found this which will help me to start helping to articulate my feeling on all this boxed rhetorical psychology bullshit on ids, egos, anima/animus. I need to trust myself more... with my poetic authority. Yet I do have duty to not be rude or arrogant in responses. I must be articulate and eloquent, which I feel has nothing to do with ego...
Overview http://www.textetc.com/theory/jung.html
Jung's psychiatry is as much a myth as Freud's, and no more successful in treating mental illness (i.e beyond providing a listening ear), but does provide a broader perspective. Artists are not seen as neurotics, and Jung's archetypes resemble Lakoff and Johnson's schemas.
Introduction
Carl Jung (1875-1961) rejected the mechanistic and reductive aspects of Freud's work and broadened psychoanalysis to include art, mythology and the thought processes of native peoples. He was much closer to common sense than Freud, and gradually moved away from a causative model of personality. Psychic energy was not entirely or even fundamentally sexual in origin. Not all neuroses were rooted in childhood development: one needed to consider the present circumstances, and what hopes the client entertained towards the future.
Jung saw the psyche or total personality as several interacting systems. In place of Freud's superego, ego and id, Jung recognized an ego, a personal unconscious and a collective unconscious. In the personal unconscious were to be found various complexes, and in the collective unconscious were archetypal dispositions to think, perceive and act in a certain way
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WOW... this is exhausting... but, thanks for opening this up... am sure we will continue I think... I will go back to Jung for a bit. I simply find too much typical, over used, worn out ideology in that tired old box of words and phrases
MacD
Well Mr. Malay, move on from Jung to something more recent. While valuable, it is quite tired and dated. You can trust that I've spent a lot of time on the subject of psychology. A lot has happened in the discipline since Jung and Freud, but they were the originators who lived in extremely sexually uptight times. It is what it is. A good jumping off point for study. Early medical doctors 'bled' people, remember?
When I read your words I am reminded of Scientology…which espouses the same views towards psychologists.
It is difficult to be objective when considering a line of thought. Our biases scream first, our brain jumps in second. Roddie, my friend, I feel your vehemence against any mention of God or soul or spirit. You are certainly entitled to your opinions, but I'm saddened that other positions are not allowed air without insult.
Who of us is certain about what is and what isn't?
I've been to many psychologists and a couple/three psychiatrists (the difference being they become medical doctors first). I didn't like it or benefit from it. I suspect most therapists are glorified social workers. But it doesn't mean the discipline is without merit, or that there are no effective psychologists out there somewhere.
The Ego is a central concept in any kind of work I've read by any psychologist. It may have a different name, but it means the same thing. It is one's concept of himself within the context of his world. I'm not sure one has to be a good student of psychology to have insight into his own thoughts and motivations.
I believe along with you that the population is pretty fucked up today. That's a whole other subject I've thought a good deal about, but that's for another day.
This is all material for THE BOOK. I've been inspired by you and I'm already knee deep.
By the way, the dictionary lists "rhetoric" as a synonym for "eloquence". Interesting.
Rod
Yes... you are right... move on but, you did ask about ego. I gave an opinion and not an aggressive one and you came back with a authoritative declaration on the subject that I read as not poetic rather written in stone from another era, that I found challenging. So I grouped around on the subject attempting to articulate a response, that even I was not all that happy with.
“Ego is self!” is that a recent declaration or did Freud declare it so or is that your invention, your discovery. I never really gave it any thought, except because of your letter that started all this intrigue, where I responded with a separation of ego from self ."Ego” is an ancient descriptive of one’s essence, I suppose and it really does not have a favourable reputation so how can it be the “all” of self, when the self is composed of other character descriptives, that are more favourable.
“The consciousness I have spoken of before lives outside of the ego and is the part of us that has no ego” you say. Is this not a contradiction against “Ego is Self”.
I have never studied scientology but, I would not want to be in that club. Tom Cruise and a few other Hollywood ding bats are members. In fact I do not want to be in anyone’s club
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You are a challenging lady my “DEAR” friend
Now lets see the other issues.
Yes, I definitely have an issue with ignorance. I was awaken out of sleep this morning with this thought: All religions are hate crimes against humanity. Religions become a target of ridicule as they violate civil liberties and human rights. This is especially so in the case of women, as well as many other social issues... homosexuality, stem cell research, abortion, euthanasia and others I forget. So this is a contradiction to the so called “benevolent God in Heaven” or where ever in hell he lives. So why should I be tolerant of religion, of “GOD”. There is some parallel here, though certainly not as extreme, with recent journalists espousing an “ideology” of the “Islamic State” to explain their debauchery, when they are simply reptilian butcherers.
This is not me feeling insulted... it is me challenging the dumbing down language of: “Who of us is certain about what is and what isn't?”. In my Poetic Authority... there is no “is” Rhetorical it is yes... eloquent it is not. I will not hide my opinion on this nor will I challenges any who do not challenge me on this subject but, it is bedding down with law breakers.
Words have different meanings in different contexts. There is no question that some politicians are eloquent rhetoricalists, the bastards... Harper not included, though a bastard he is. For me, eloquent means expressiveness, poise, wittiness if possible, articulation in my search for creative invention but not for the parroting of worn out hackney proverbs.
Bon soir MacD
Here we go again. There is definitely a problem discussing/debating/exploring subjects when not face to face. Seems like we both put our "dukes" up. You asked questions about the 'ego', and I told you what I knew, perhaps not well. Then you called it bullshit, then I felt insulted, then I insulted you so-to-speak, and on and on. The written word is not the perfect communicator.
You asked me about ego. I didn't make the term 'ego' up. Even the dictionary on my macbook defines it as "a person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance", which is rather vague I agree. But I feel clear about its meaning in psychological terms and don't think I asked you for an explanation. Why do we get so hung up on semantics? It takes me so far away from the crux of my intended message. Like a skirmish on the sidelines.
But perhaps digging into words helps crystallize the argument for one or the other. On the subject of speaking with a voice that is heard as "authoritative and not poetic", I surrender. We've been through that one and my understanding of how you 'hear' my words is still fuzzy, so it will likely continue as I don't know how to change it, even if I wanted to.
I'm grateful we have these exploration of ideas and thoughts that we exchange. You do frustrate me, as I do you, but I feel I am expanding my knowledge and understanding and I hope you see it that way too.
I heard this expression years ago, and I try to keep it in mind, "He who argues with the loudest voice is still trying to convince himself".
Rod
I am not upset, frustrated or insulted. On the contrary, what I am finding ever more intriguing is the glib use of our language, a use that spreads across all languages. The word “Ego” so easily and mindlessly slips off the tongue that it is pragmatically ineffective. This is so with a huge percentage of our language.
I am actually, methodically, working toward a more effective voicing in how I use language and so shy away from words that are so commonplace that the listerner has stopped listening. I have not yet succeeded in precise, economic use in my utterances. But a lot of people have achieved that goal and they become my tutor heroes in the art of communication. The ego crap of my genetic code has a lot of influence in my indoctrinated behaviour. I see it as the hegemony invader... like Putin. I suppose ego, if it is “self” might be akin to cancer cells, that I understand rests through the human body but remains dormant... in healthy bodies, with high immunity firewalls?
Can I get back to the “original'’ mould, to speak from my own centre where my personal receptors have not been tampered with by the predominance of trespassers.
MacD
I'm asking myself these questions:
The brain, the mind, the ego, the subconscious and the conscious self….how would I define their meaning in relation to each other?
Where does 'consciousness' fit in? Is the mind separate from consciousness?
Interesting. I like your idea regarding words/communication.
I do agree that many words today have lost their meaning, such as 'depression' when referring to being bummed out or sad. "Grow" your business---that's another one, and "branding" yet another. But I think 'consciousness' has probably the most confusing and misunderstood usage. Today there is a 'consciousness movement', mostly online social media driven which is huge. I enjoy it and I'm delighted to see a younger generation fed up with how we currently do things. That doesn't mean I agree with everything posted. I'm also okay with my usage of 'ego'.
The trouble is that the list of words we think are overused or misused are different for everyone. I happen to think 'bullshit' is overused, and certainly doesn't possess it's original meaning. It's value is in packing a punch, like slamming a door.
And I do like the word eloquence in the context you intend. Frankly, I think it would be easier to replace the word rhetoric, and keep 'eloquence'. I don't think people use 'eloquence' to mean rhetoric or persuasiveness.
Well today I've been up and down working on final negotiations on a house we're selling. This is the buyer's fourth offer, and we've been at it for 4 months. So no work on THE BOOK today.
Rod
Consciousness goes back to my thoughts on genetic memory and my Secular Cell… a simple biological explanation, void of the myths of psychiatric authority.
MacD
It occurs to me that we both possess "buttons" I'm thinking of this now, not as it relates to discussions between us, but in terms of the ideologies we possess and espouse in general. I see 'buttons' as emotional triggers resulting in a conditioned knee-jerk reactions, learned over time, for whatever reason. I also see them as weaknesses. Personally, I would like to overcome these buttons I possess so that my thinking remains clear and open and not hijacked by unidentified emotional baggage that clouds my reception and consideration of alternate ideas. Having certain buttons that kick off a reaction may be very understandable given someone's history, but they steal opportunities and take away from learning. Like a wheel rolling along new ground and suddenly slipping into a well worn and unhelpful rut.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to once again try to see my buttons for what they are, and tamper them back down where they belong.
Rod
Yeah... true but, some buttons are precious and should not be junked carelessly. They often are gut reactions to important issues that define our identity, that make us human, lest we might simply be robots. No need to apologise, take offence or indeed, defend. Let the buttons flash red as demand arises but, hang onto humour to moderate the passion, yet not so to depreciate the importance of the issue.
Sir John A Macdonald comes to mind... Drunk in the Parliament House, he throws up and responds with, '’Every time I look across at the opposition I throw up”
MacD
That's funny! It reminds me of Winston Churchill, when being told by his (not well liked) hostess, "Churchill, you are drunk!!", to which he replies, "Yes, I am. But you, Madam, are ugly. And I will be sober in the morning."
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